tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post792362003058210566..comments2023-12-31T00:15:56.826-08:00Comments on Metaverse Traveller: SpotON3D: Patent Challange to Open Sim?Talla Adamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11125668800530203529noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-73737555935887408432011-08-23T06:00:43.559-07:002011-08-23T06:00:43.559-07:00Something I don't understand is why opensim te...Something I don't understand is why opensim team doesn't use GPL license to protect their works. I guess that a GPL license can protect from hostile patents.Djinn Rhodenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-14443123232172929632011-08-21T05:56:41.648-07:002011-08-21T05:56:41.648-07:00Gaga, it is not the patents that are unethical whe...Gaga, it is not the patents that are unethical when used to intimidate, it is the people who use patents and the patent system that way.Sarge Misfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13127904383770594050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-80267070753177841652011-08-20T20:24:11.593-07:002011-08-20T20:24:11.593-07:00Hi Ener
Just to say the same...
Congratulations ...Hi Ener<br /><br />Just to say the same...<br /><br />Congratulations SpotON3D!<br /><br />GagaTalla Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11125668800530203529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-75262087036099175322011-08-20T20:21:22.979-07:002011-08-20T20:21:22.979-07:00Hi Sarge
Thank you for your thoughts and in my ar...Hi Sarge<br /><br />Thank you for your thoughts and in my article I mention people who don't have the means to afford expensive hosting and services, and, moreover, licence fees. Open Sim and Aurora make it possible for low-income people to express their creativity in virtual worlds. The open Metaverse is a wonderful social concept that has the power to build communities. It would be so unfair to take that away from a community that built it for themselves.<br /><br />I know patents are legal but, really, are they ethical when they can be used to intimidate and destroy innovation and what belongs to a community known for sharing.<br /><br />I think Tranquility's initiative is an excellent idea.<br /><br />GagaTalla Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11125668800530203529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-26241982044917463062011-08-20T13:06:08.831-07:002011-08-20T13:06:08.831-07:00SpotON3D are the first recipients of the highly co...SpotON3D are the first recipients of the highly coveted Ener Douchebag Award!<br /><br />congrats SpotON3d!Ener Haxhttp://iliveisl.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-84598294453679563162011-08-20T06:15:19.748-07:002011-08-20T06:15:19.748-07:00I've been keeping up as best as I can on all t...I've been keeping up as best as I can on all this with SpotON3D's patent applications, what they are saying and what they are doing and have been adding my thoughts and comments here and there. My concerns are as an end user, a small time not-quite-yet-launched grid owner, and the impacts that their patent applications will likely have on me and the metaverse in general.<br /><br />If their patents are approved, I can't afford any licensing fees, and, as a result, I will be cut off from a potentially huge number of users. Even if those patents are not approved, the weight they can throw around with the two words "patent pending" in the meantime will have a large effect on the developing metaverse. They can use the courts to interfere with many things in defense of their pending patents. These include intergrid travel, intergrid economy, developing web-based viewers and more.<br /><br />I am personally engaged in a SpotON3D Boycott. I will do my best to keep posting my thoughts as an end-user on this. Tranquility Dexler (of InWorldz) has mentioned creating a Community Patent Initiative and that InWorldz and Kitely are willing to work on this. In support of that I have donated the forum at my wikidot site (http://excelsior-station.wikidot.com/forum/c-479784/community-patent-initiative) to be used for discussions.Sarge Misfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13127904383770594050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-68707368173351215152011-08-18T06:35:15.804-07:002011-08-18T06:35:15.804-07:00Hi Ilan & ELQ
Bit late this reply but thank y...Hi Ilan & ELQ<br /><br />Bit late this reply but thank you for commenting. I think ELQ puts it in a nutshell, you can't keep free-thinking people down. They will always find another way. Look at the backlash Google and Facebook are getting for abusing privacy.<br /><br />GagaTalla Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11125668800530203529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-5401964291641452402011-08-16T16:15:26.853-07:002011-08-16T16:15:26.853-07:00To be honest, I'm not too worried about this. ...To be honest, I'm not too worried about this. All they are doing is what Compuserve, AOL, and others tried to do with the internet. Their shit didn't fly and neither will SpotON3D's. People are used to their freedom, and if you try to put them in a box, they will break out. What seems to me more likely to happen, is people will get used to 3D web via this walled garden, and then run for the free metaverse, never looking back..just like many did with the web before.ELQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04703274055870246564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-2348463239369741652011-08-15T22:35:13.084-07:002011-08-15T22:35:13.084-07:00Hi Gaga,
I couldn't agree more. Like the Robb...Hi Gaga,<br /><br />I couldn't agree more. Like the Robber Barons of yore, SpotOn3D is attempting to take ownership of other people's (intellectual) property. First using OpenSim without contributing anything back then by using a broken patent system to stake legal claim over key components of OpenSim's development path.<br /><br />Wrapping it up in "it's for your own good" speech is all the more insulting to the people who actually work toward creating a free foundation for an open metaverse.<br /><br />A warped sense of moral values combined with knowledge on how to abuse the broken patent system, and access to unlimited patent lawyer time without needing to pay for it is a recipe for very abusive behavior towards an open community built on sharing.Ilan Tochnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01757159312763641805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-34772059447198551502011-08-15T20:44:18.085-07:002011-08-15T20:44:18.085-07:00Hi Maria
Thank you. One thing that stuck in my mi...Hi Maria<br /><br />Thank you. One thing that stuck in my mind while researching this was their words, saying they had seen the problems in their contemporaries. One of those problems is clearly security and their answer was really very simple. We, SpotON3D, can offer you private label grids within our network and sell licences to outsiders wanting to connect and enjoy our service too. And as you pointed out, Maria you can't hypergrid from outside their network. This indicates one thing, a basic walled garden network controlled by SpotON3D. It offers no more security than any other walled garden grid or even Second Life. The bottom line though is that if you are not inside the network or conrolled via licencing then your not part of their notion of what the 3D Web will become. Or what they will force it to become if they gain those patents.<br /><br />GagaTalla Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11125668800530203529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6880640158139598308.post-24639736268471034302011-08-15T19:41:52.835-07:002011-08-15T19:41:52.835-07:00Gaga --
Great article. One thing i want to add --...Gaga --<br /><br />Great article. One thing i want to add -- SpotON3D has come out a few times against the Hypergrid -- instead, they have their own, incompatible system.<br /><br />They way they have it set up, avatars can't actually travel from one grid to another. However, the Double Dutch system can be used to deliver items to avatars in multiple grids. Plus, they link multiple avatars to a single user account.<br /><br />But you still have to create and dress new avatars on each new grid. that's a very limited -- and, so far, not very popular -- approach to OpenSim.<br /><br />Today, the number of hypergrid-enabled grids vastly outnumbers the closed grids, and, like you pointed out, Avination, one of the biggest commercial grids, plans to switch hypergrid on once its secure enough. Most other grids will probably follow suit at some point, as well.<br /><br />But the hypergrid future is one of loosely-coupled systems -- you can run OpenSim, Diva, Aurora-Sim, get hosting from any of 50-plus hosting providers, and travel between any of these.<br /><br />That puts SpotON3D at odds with everyone else. I'm hoping it won't turn ugly.Maria Korolovhttp://www.hypergridbusiness.comnoreply@blogger.com